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Just the last year or so she went on an actual vacation or two. Other times it was business trips. But yeah i agree with what you're saying.

It's nonstop work with the majority of time it is just her and she is doing a job that requires about five people. Along with looking after cats and family.

First of all I paid extra for the prints the tier was bucks and I paid to help compensate for the postage charges.

Second, whatever Ivy had happening in her life she could have told me, she trusted me with her home address at one point, which I've kept secret ever, not to mention her real name.

She is a very talented Cosplayer yes, but when it comes to her Patreon she could a lot better and if she actually hired a real assistant instead using her sister as an assistant she might get somewhere.

I understand you had to pay extra, both for V. T and International delivery. It's a lot of money. I understand she trusted you with all this information but even some things are kept close to the chest for a reason.

I was on her patreon too and she explained it on there in part what she was dealing with. What i'm going to say might sound hurtful because i've been there with other content creators.

In the end it came down to you and your choice to keep supporting her. You even said you dropped down to 50 when you should have dropped to 0 based on your experience.

I agree she should hire an assistant but we don't know if she can afford that expense. There were other perks, but nothing beyond her having to push a button on her phone or click of a button on her PC.

With all that money I paid yes willingly she owed me better explanation other than silence, she is a service provider after all and if she can't deliver she has duty inform her customer that she can't fulfill her part of the contract.

Even if Ivy wanted keep private whatever was happening with her. But no she to kept me in the dark and basically kept bleeding money from me.

If she'd been fair she could have told me to stop and not be greedy. Or she could simply paused her Patreon so she could have time to fulfill everything she behind on.

We both know a lot more goes into setting up online things than simply pushing a button. I can probably guess that when you talked to her it all felt like it was worth it.

Just over time that feeling faded. You have every right to feel like you got burned but it's on all of us to know when we're not getting our money's worth, cut our losses and leave.

I get how you feel about feeling like you were kept in the dark but i assume it wasn't her intention at all. Yes she should have do all these things.

Just like you should have stopped paying, but it's done now. I know from reading her post that she tried to keep on top of things but couldn't for some people, which is unfortunate m.

Stop trying to excuse her behavior all she had to do was pause her Patreon and that would have solved the problem.

But she chose to be greedy and not care about the people who supported her. No matter how much they contributed to her Patreon.

I honestly think she is a bad person, who doesn't care two bits about her fans as long as they pay her. I think she's lazy, I think all that fame has gone to her head, I think she's very adept at lying and manipulating, I truly believe she's narcissist, she certainly has some of the features of a narcissist, "a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration.

Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative". So trying to convince otherwise and accept that she not that good of, I used believe, heck I wanted believe it, but the scales on my eyes have lifted.

I've felt the same way when i give money to some content creators but i clicked send and learned my lesson. Not making excuses. Just saying you had a roll to play in this too.

You willingly gave someone money, repeatedly. Even when they didn't meet your expectations and now you're angry because you feel you've been robbed you say so yourself , you haven't though.

We all make that choice. Again you may be right. I'm just saying in your timeline of events alot happened behind the scenes.

If your talking about Ivy's divorce I already knew that was happening. Still she could have done better, she could have "guys I need pause this and regroup things are happening in my life which makes it necessary to pause this" and you seem very concerned that I just accept this, why do you need me to do that, is it because you want defend Ivy's character?

You know I could be a much more evil person than this considering what Ivy did. I have a picture Ivy wouldn't want published, but I haven't done that since I am a good person unlike Ivy.

To be honest, I don't care what happened behind the scenes with Ivy, there is no excuse for her behavior. This is what evil people do when they are evil, they lie and manipulate people around them.

Ivy cloaks herself in good deeds to distract people from the real her. You can try convince me to see this in some twisted way you see it, but I have made up my mind about Ivy and no revelation can change that.

Hold up brother. If that picture is NSFW, you know they say sharing is caring. I would question whether Ivy is evil or not though.

It's Ivy with her mom at LA comic con. At her booth, it's not that incredible, I won't ever be publishing it. Yeah that's what i was talking about and you know she threw herself into her work which in the end all got on top of her because if you knew that when people ignore issues for a long time it always comes back to bite them in the ass.

This is probably why she didn't put it on hold. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, merely point out you continued to give money after all this time, even lowering it to You either did that because you really liked her work or you felt you had an emotional connection that filled a void.

Not saying you did but the language you're using, even the threats. Make it sound like you did. Just read what you wrote: i don't care what she went through.

Divorces are not easy. Again i'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just offering a little perspective so you can not be too hard on yourself.

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Second, whatever Ivy had happening in her life she could have told me, she trusted me with her home address at one point, which I've kept secret ever, not to mention her real name.

She is a very talented Cosplayer yes, but when it comes to her Patreon she could a lot better and if she actually hired a real assistant instead using her sister as an assistant she might get somewhere.

I understand you had to pay extra, both for V. T and International delivery. It's a lot of money. I understand she trusted you with all this information but even some things are kept close to the chest for a reason.

I was on her patreon too and she explained it on there in part what she was dealing with. What i'm going to say might sound hurtful because i've been there with other content creators.

In the end it came down to you and your choice to keep supporting her. You even said you dropped down to 50 when you should have dropped to 0 based on your experience.

I agree she should hire an assistant but we don't know if she can afford that expense. There were other perks, but nothing beyond her having to push a button on her phone or click of a button on her PC.

With all that money I paid yes willingly she owed me better explanation other than silence, she is a service provider after all and if she can't deliver she has duty inform her customer that she can't fulfill her part of the contract.

Even if Ivy wanted keep private whatever was happening with her. But no she to kept me in the dark and basically kept bleeding money from me. If she'd been fair she could have told me to stop and not be greedy.

Or she could simply paused her Patreon so she could have time to fulfill everything she behind on.

We both know a lot more goes into setting up online things than simply pushing a button. I can probably guess that when you talked to her it all felt like it was worth it.

Just over time that feeling faded. You have every right to feel like you got burned but it's on all of us to know when we're not getting our money's worth, cut our losses and leave.

I get how you feel about feeling like you were kept in the dark but i assume it wasn't her intention at all. Yes she should have do all these things.

Just like you should have stopped paying, but it's done now. I know from reading her post that she tried to keep on top of things but couldn't for some people, which is unfortunate m.

Stop trying to excuse her behavior all she had to do was pause her Patreon and that would have solved the problem. But she chose to be greedy and not care about the people who supported her.

No matter how much they contributed to her Patreon. I honestly think she is a bad person, who doesn't care two bits about her fans as long as they pay her.

I think she's lazy, I think all that fame has gone to her head, I think she's very adept at lying and manipulating, I truly believe she's narcissist, she certainly has some of the features of a narcissist, "a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration.

Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative". So trying to convince otherwise and accept that she not that good of, I used believe, heck I wanted believe it, but the scales on my eyes have lifted.

I've felt the same way when i give money to some content creators but i clicked send and learned my lesson. Not making excuses. Just saying you had a roll to play in this too.

You willingly gave someone money, repeatedly. Even when they didn't meet your expectations and now you're angry because you feel you've been robbed you say so yourself , you haven't though.

We all make that choice. Again you may be right. I'm just saying in your timeline of events alot happened behind the scenes. If your talking about Ivy's divorce I already knew that was happening.

Still she could have done better, she could have "guys I need pause this and regroup things are happening in my life which makes it necessary to pause this" and you seem very concerned that I just accept this, why do you need me to do that, is it because you want defend Ivy's character?

You know I could be a much more evil person than this considering what Ivy did. I have a picture Ivy wouldn't want published, but I haven't done that since I am a good person unlike Ivy.

To be honest, I don't care what happened behind the scenes with Ivy, there is no excuse for her behavior. This is what evil people do when they are evil, they lie and manipulate people around them.

Ivy cloaks herself in good deeds to distract people from the real her. You can try convince me to see this in some twisted way you see it, but I have made up my mind about Ivy and no revelation can change that.

Hold up brother. If that picture is NSFW, you know they say sharing is caring. I would question whether Ivy is evil or not though.

It's Ivy with her mom at LA comic con. At her booth, it's not that incredible, I won't ever be publishing it.

Yeah that's what i was talking about and you know she threw herself into her work which in the end all got on top of her because if you knew that when people ignore issues for a long time it always comes back to bite them in the ass.

This is probably why she didn't put it on hold. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, merely point out you continued to give money after all this time, even lowering it to You either did that because you really liked her work or you felt you had an emotional connection that filled a void.

Not saying you did but the language you're using, even the threats. Make it sound like you did. Just read what you wrote: i don't care what she went through.

Divorces are not easy. Again i'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just offering a little perspective so you can not be too hard on yourself. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy.

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